Character list apollodorus narrator aristodemus told. He was a good friend of erixymachus, because of their shared interest in physics, as well as the arts and philosophy. Jan 27, 2018 this is a brief overview of platos symposium. But it can be recalled, and when recalled it constitutes true knowledge phaedrus 249e. Phaidros, written by plato, is a dialogue between platos protagonist, socrates, and phaedrus, an interlocutor in several dialogues. You said, i think, that the troubles among the gods were composed by love of beauty, for there.
Phaedrus, pausanias, eryximachus, aristophanes, agathon, socrates, alcibiades, a troop of revellers. Phaedrus speech works to beget a grouping of tightly associated, provocative proposi tions. Pdf the symposium and the phaedrus download full pdf book. An analysis of his doctrine on love in the symposium and phaedrus find, read and cite all the research you need on. Phaedrus puts a positive spin on this aspect of love without denying it outright. In his speech, he has three main ideas to define love. However, he claims there are two kinds of love, for which reason he describes them both before giving praise to the one he thinks is worthy. Plato 428348 bce student of socrates died 399 bce culture of athens in the 5 th4th century bce.
Permanent beauty and becoming happy in platos symposium. According to hesiod, he was born to chaos and earth. Read download symposium and phaedrus pdf pdf download. Dover the date of platos symposium, phronesis 1965 10. So he skipped them and went directly to the speech of pausanias.
Then in symposium phaedrus seems to have done nothing more than grow up, in fact phaedrus argues a bit of socrates speech from phaedrus, he says. Banquet, 179b4180b5 annie hourcade sciou 149 eros protrepon. The symposium consists mainly of a series of praise speeches encomia. In addition, this little admission links alcibiadess speech to phaedruss, at the beginning of the symposium. The men include the philosopher socrates, the general and political figure alcibiades, and the comic playwright aristophanes.
The characters and the settings are to some degree based on history, but they. Achilles, whom phaedrus cites as the prime example of a. Phaedrus speech in the symposium abstract phaedrus speech in platos symposium suffers from a very bad press. My dear phaedrus, whence come you, and whither are you going. After they have finished eating, eryximachus picks up on a suggestion of phaedrus, that each person.
When he learns that phaedrus has just come from hearing lysias, a famous orator, socrates is interested in hearing lysiass speech for himself. Phaedrus speech was followed by several others which aristodemus remembered poorly, so apollodorus continued on to tell of pausanias speech. In its treatment of the topicsof the soul, the ideas and love, it is closely tied to the other dialogues ofplatos middle period, the phaedo,the symposium, and the republic. Download pdf the symposium and the phaedrus book full free. Then pausanias, the proud lover of agathon, follows with a speech that highlights the educational.
It has been said that, after the bible, platos dialogues are the most influential books in western culture. It features socrates attending a symposium banquet with feasting and drinking to honour the poet agathon. Phaedrus and the sophistic competition of beautiful speech noburu notomi 143 eros sans expedient. Pausanias follows this speech, with a rather selfrighteous tone. The phaedrus lies at the heart of platos work, and thetopics it discusses are central to his thought. Phaedrus begins giving a speech focused on the virtue of bravery in love. Socrates however seems to be intent on disproving all of the. And if phaedrus or i myself said anything rude in our first speeches, blame lysias, who is the father of the brat, and let us have no more of his progeny. In the symposium, the dialectic exists among the speeches. The philosopher socrates encounters phaedrus, a young student of rhetoric, outside the athens city walls.
Platos speech within the symposium and phaedrus 1415. Phaedrus summary from litcharts the creators of sparknotes. A model of the kind of text one needs for lecture courses. Symposium by plato introductory dialogue and the speech of. The phaedrus was presumably composed around 370 bce, about the same time as platos republic and symposium. The symposium occasionally translated as the banquet the symposium is the longer of the two works here. One of the most alien aspects of platos ethical theory is that it gives a central place to beauty to kalon and erotic love. The symposium and the phaedrus are combined here because of their shared theme.
He persuades phaedrus, whos carrying a copy of lysiass speech, to read it aloud. The homeric epicsespecially the iliadwill be another important reference point in the symposium from this speech onward. There are three main points in phaedruss speech auws. And phaedrus, he has a different definition about love. Such is the speech, phaedrus, halfplayful, yet having a certain measure of seriousness, which, according to my ability, i dedicate to the god. Phaedrus, and symposium, socrates, the gadfly of athens, searches for the truth about love and. The symposium and the phaedrus available for download and read online in other formats. Phaedrus begins his speech reiterating that love is a god, and is actually one of the most ancient gods. Diotima is a fictitious prophetess whom socrates invents in his speech at the symposium.
The work itself is believed to have been composed sometime between 385 bc and 370 bc. Learn exactly what happened in this chapter, scene, or section of plato c. Aristophanes speech focuses on human nature and a mythical account of how love plays out among humans. Phaedrus is a dialogue written by plato around 370 bc. His stories of achilles and alcestis acts of selfsacrifice for the lover and beloved exemplify the bravery of love. Symposium 239 us who are now here to adorn the god. Phaedrus thinks that love is the most ancient because of some reasons. The two dialogues together contain the whole philosophy of plato on the nature of love, which in the republic and in the later writings of plato is only introduced playfully or as a figure of speech. Ihere follotved several other speeches which he couldnt remember very well. Phaedrus sets the tone for the symposium, complaining no poet praises love. In the shock of birth, our souls, which beheld the form directly, repress this memory. Symposium by plato summary and analysis of the speech of pausanias buy study guide phaedrus speech was followed by several others which aristodemus remembered poorly, so apollodorus continued on to tell of pausanias speech. The two dialogues together contain the whole philosophy of plato on the nature of love, which in the republic and in the later writings of plato is only introduced.
Full text of platos symposium see other formats plato symposium trans. Pdf the symposium and the phaedrus download full pdf. It is at once a preparation for socrates and a foil to him. Phaedrus makes several excuses, but socrates suspects strongly that phaedrus has a copy of the speech with him. For it is my opinion that each of us, starting on the left, should recite the fairest praise of eros that he can, and phaedrus should be the first to begin, inasmuch as he is lying on the head couch and is also the. An analysis of his doctrine on love in the symposium and phaedrus introduction love is a human fact, something that happens to humans. This reflection is carried out explicitly in the speeches and conversations in the dialogues, and implicitly in the dramatic depiction of actions and characters. According to him, all of gods, love is the most ancient, the most honored, and the most powerful symposium, 465.
Symposium by plato the speech of aristophanes summary and. Learn exactly what happened in this chapter, scene, or section of the symposium and what it means. And the introduction admirably presents both basic. It details a conversation between two characters, phaedrus and socrates. Phaedrus, whose name literally means radiant or bright is featured prominently in the symposium and the eponymous phaedrus dialogue. I come from lysias the son of cephalus, and i am going to take a walk outside the wall, for i have been sitting with him the whole morning. Apollodorus, who repeats to his companion the dialogue which he had heard from aristodemus, and had already once narrated to glaucon. The speech may be compared with that speech of socrates in the phaedrus in which he describes himself as talking dithyrambs. Saying that while lysias is present, he would never allow himself to be used as a training partner for phaedrus to practice his own speech making on, he asks phaedrus to expose what he is holding under his cloak. Those present agree to have a competition in which each will give a speech praising the god eros love. Now recall also what it was that you declared in your speech to be the object of love. Guidance is given through shame when acting shamefully and pride when acting well.
The first half of the phaedrus consists of competitive speeches of seduction. Of the dialogues, the symposium is the most delightful and accessible, requiring no special knowledge of ancient greek philosophy or customs. The phaedrus is closely connected with the symposium, and may be regarded either as introducing or following it. They were all round shaped, with four hands and four legs each, two faces, and two sets of. Handout supplied to my students as we work through platos symposium, focused particularly on the content in the sixth speech, given by socrates narrating earlier dialogues with diotima. Pausanias began by reminding the gathering that their purpose was to give speeches praising love. Before turning to socrates speech, let us consider for a moment the first speech of the evening, for in his speech phaedrus praises love in terms that socrates will basically accept. Thats because the lover is a more divine creature than the younger man, since he is divinely inspired plato symposium 180b. Symposium by plato the speech of pausanias summary and. Platonic love, as in the symposium, is eros, here graphically described. Apollodorus relates to an unnamed companion a story he learned from aristodemus about a symposium, or dinnerparty, given in honor of the tragedian agathon.
As with other dialogues by plato, the characters are historical, but the conversation is not. And if you share in my opinion, we should find enough of a pastime in speeches. Perfect for acing essays, tests, and quizzes, as well as for writing lesson plans. The homeric epicsespecially the iliad will be another important reference point in the symposium from this speech onward. In addition, this little admission links alcibiadess speech to phaedrus s, at the beginning of the symposium. Phaedrus phaedrus is commonly paired on the one hand with gorgias and on the other with symposium with the former in sharing its principal theme, the liature and limitations of rhetoric, with the latter in containing speeches devoted to the nature and value of erotic love. Phaedrus phaedrus is commonly paired on the one hand with gorgias and on the other with symposium with the former in sharing its principal theme, the liature and limitations of rhetoric, with the latter in containing speeches devoted to the nature and value of. It depicts a friendly contest of extemporaneous speeches given by a group of notable men attending a banquet. Eros in platos phaedrus and the shape of greek rhetoric. Inthe phaedrus, however, plato does notfeel the need to resist other. Mattingly the date of platos symposium, phronesis 1958 3. Feb 03, 20 and phaedrus, he has a different definition about love. Phaedrus explains this further by describing that when in.
The symposium characters from litcharts the creators of. Athens, the deceptively unassuming symposium introducesin the guise. Free kindle book and epub digitized and proofread by project gutenberg. Symposium by plato the speech of eryximachus summary and. Symposium and second that object must be something of which he is at present in want. Pdf on jun 22, 2001, ricardo henriquez and others published plato on love. According to phaedrus, love gives people who intend to live in a fine and beautiful way kalos what is necessary to lead them through their whole lives. But in the phaedrus and symposium love and philosophy join hands, and one is an aspect of the other.
The soul is portrayed as made of a white horse read more. He tells the origin of love as the youngest god, son of chaos and earth. The two encounter each other the morning after phaedrus has heard lysias, a prominent athenian and famous orator, give a. Alcibiades evidently feels shame, but not strongly enough to change his life and become a philosopher. Socrates arrives at the party late, as he was lost in thought on the neighboring porch. Socrates pointedly assigns to phaedrus the responsibility for the speeches. Benardete apollodorus, in my own opinion, i am not unprepared for what you ask about. Download symposium and phaedrus ebook pdf or read online books in pdf, epub. Phaedrus, pausanias, eryximachus, aristophanes, agathon, socrates, alcibiades.
The symposium concerns itself at one level with the genesis, purpose and nature of love, and in latterday interpretations is the origin of the concept of platonic love. Although ostensibly about the topic of love, the discussion in the dialogue revolves. Love has no parentage, though love is said to have started to exist at some time. It was later said that phaedrus was one of socratess favorites. Phaedrus, had argued that loves ability to inspire shameand thus ensure virtuous conductwas its main benefit to humankind.
First he explains that long ago there were three types of human beings. The symposium philosophy learning and teaching organization. Symposium by plato summary and analysis of the speech of eryximachus buy study guide building on pausanias distinction between two types of love, eryximachus expands this, claiming that love not only occurs in humans, but everywhere in the universe, including the animal kingdom and in the world of plants, a lesson he learned from the field. The rhetoric of agathon elevates the soul to sunlit heights, but at the same time contrasts with the natural and necessary eloquence of socrates. Socrates repents of his first attempt and gives a treatment of love as the impulse to philosophy. When agathon had done speaking, aristodemus said that there was a general cheer.
His speech connects love to his practice of medicine and to harmonies observed throughout the natural world. Plato, specially in two of his dialogues, the symposium and the. Eros in platos phaedrus and the shape of greek rhetoric harvey yunis f or plato, rhetoric was not a morally neutral set of skills in language and speaking, but part and parcel of the entire set of conventional ethical and political values that needed to be uprooted and replaced with better ones. He suggests the topic of love for the symposium speeches.
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